links for 2010-02-09

  • "It is time to take stock: What has the intelligent design movement achieved? As science, nothing. The goal of science is to increase our understanding of the natural world, and there is not a single phenomenon that we understand better today or are likely to understand better in the future through the efforts of ID theorists. If we are to look for ID achievements, then, it must be in the realm of natural theology. And there, I think, the movement must be judged not only a failure, but a debacle."

    I'm not ready to take sides in this debate, but this is a very thoughtful piece, worth reading.

2 thoughts on “links for 2010-02-09”

  1. I’m not sure where to fall here. I agree with him, for the most part, that the whole ID bandwagon trying to write a science book from the Bible is not successful and just flat out doesn’t work. I also agree that the main purpose of creation (as Calvin said) is to behold the splendor of the creator. But what’s next?

    What happens when I sit in the class room and hear, ‘science tells us it all came from nowhere and that God doesn’t exist’? What do i say when ‘science’ tells us that we evolved from apes? can i write that science off as ‘bad science’, because I believe that God created us? do they have ‘good science’ with a incorrect application?

    Fact #1: the bible states somethings very clearly. It says that God designed and created the universe, the earth, man, and all the creatures on the earth. It says that He made it from ‘the power of His word’, and holds all of it in His hands with complete control. Fact #2: modern science would disagree with everything i just said.

    So where do we, believing that God created the world and is in control of it, land?

    1. Hey bub, so I'm kinda slow in replying to this. But I have a couple thoughts. As to what happens when you hear in class that "science tells us it all comes from nowhere and that God doesn't exist", well, that's just an incorrect statement on the part of the science teacher. Science may "tell us" that things appear to be very old and have evolved. Fine. But science can't tell us that it all comes from "nowhere", and of course science has no way to prove that there is no God.

      As for your Facts 1 and 2, I am completely in agreement on #1. I'm not in such agreement about #2. There are respected scientists out there who are Christians and would affirm your statement #1 while at the same time pursuing scientific studies that they would say point to an old, evolving universe.

      Like I said in my original post, I'm not sure where I fall on this one yet. I'm just coming to acknowledge the fact that there are serious, committed believers out there who have put in good, serious study, and have come to the conclusion that believing in a billions-of-years-old evolving universe isn't at odds with the Bible's teaching about God as creator, designer, and sustainer. Which makes me stop to think. Still thinking. đŸ™‚

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